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Discussion about challenges and triumphs by exploring the depths of self-discovery and personal and business growth.
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Finding Strength in Life's Trials
**PLEASE NOTE**: A correction needs to be made regarding a statement made by the interviewee in reference to the year of her divorce. The year was actually 2002, NOT 2020.
Can a journey from teenage motherhood to thriving entrepreneurship illuminate the power of resilience? In our latest episode, we sit down with Shondra Zanders, who shares her remarkable story of navigating the challenges of early parenthood. At just 15, Shondra faced the daunting task of revealing her pregnancy to her family, especially her mother. Yet, with the unwavering support of her mother and grandmother, Shondra transformed her life, becoming the proud owner of Krystal Klear Travel. Her story offers hope and inspiration to young mothers everywhere, illustrating how determination and family support can light the path to success.
Join us as we explore the complexities of early parenthood and marriage, especially within the military. Shondra candidly discusses the impact of her husband's military career on their relationship, from changing behaviors to communication struggles that culminated in an abusive marriage. Despite these challenges, Shondra's narrative shines a light on the strength required to maintain relationships under pressure and emphasizes the importance of personal growth amidst adversity.
Shondra's journey to empowerment through entrepreneurship is nothing short of inspiring. After leaving an abusive relationship, she focused on building a better future for her children. By obtaining her GED and securing a job with the city, Shondra set an example for her family, inspiring her son to recognize the significance of her achievements. With Krystal Klear Travel, she not only pursued her passion but also turned skepticism into a successful entrepreneurial venture. This episode is a testament to the value of mentorship, guidance, and seeking wisdom from those who have walked a similar path, encouraging young parents to embrace support and wisdom as they face life's challenges.
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I'm going to show you how to make a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful flower. I'm going to use a flower that I bought at a flower shop. I'm going to use a flower that I bought at a flower shop. I'm going to use a flower that I bought at a flower shop. I am so excited to start off the new year with a great conversational podcast today. I hope everybody is blessed and had a wonderful holiday season and many blessings more and many fruition for the year 2025. Before we get started on our new episode for the first year, 2025.
Speaker 1:I want to just do a little bit of housekeeping. If you're watching us by video through YouTube, please hit that like, share and subscribe, because I want to get this podcast out to the algorithm so people can get all the information that we have for you. Today I want to um welcome this lovely, just charming, um lady that I've actually met on facebook. A lot of people that I uh have connected. I've connect through social media, believe it or not um chandra sanders. She is, um one of the sweetest people that I've had.
Speaker 1:the pleasure of meeting We've only met I mean, we haven't known each other that long, but just in our conversations and just our meeting of the minds. As far as entrepreneurship, we just connected immediately. She is the owner of Crystal Clear Travel. She is a travel agent, but today she wants to talk about how she got to that point. She wants to share her story from being a teenage mom to where she is now. And we all can.
Speaker 1:You know I know we know some people maybe some of us were teenage mothers and how we can, how challenging it can be, but through support and just that tenacity to be the best that you can be, you can overcome anything. So just grab your tea, grab your coffee or whatever beverage you have. I have my tea and let's just have a conversation and water, exactly. All right, Chandra, thank you so much for being my first podcast for the year and just welcome and we're so glad to have you. So just kind of tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're from, what type of family dynamic that you have, and you know, just let's just have a conversation.
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, happy New Year to each and every one of you guys. My name is Chandra. My name is Chandra Zanders. I come from Humble Beginnings. I'm a mom of two and I just recently this morning had another grandbaby to come in. So I'm a mom of two and I just recently, this morning, had another grandbaby to come in.
Speaker 2:So I am a grandmother of eight, wow, and I would just like to thank you for allowing me to be on your platform this morning, well, this afternoon in this new year. So thank you for that Absolutely. In this new year. So thank you for that Absolutely. So my story is that, yeah, I just want to reach out to teenage moms and let them know that it's okay. I became a teenage mom when I was 15. They don't give you a manual of how to be a parent, and I was still a child. You know, I was still a child, and the most hurting thing for me was to tell my mom and that was like I'd rather you just kill, kill me, put a bullet in my head or whatever.
Speaker 2:You know, I mean to go to tell my mom. But I told my mom and she was upset and she wanted to choke me out. But you know, my grandmother saved me. But, um, yeah, I was a child, I I didn't know. I know, when I was growing up my mom did talk to us about the birds and the bees. But my mom told me, she say, if you kiss a boy, you get pregnant. So when I met my boyfriend at the time, he kissed me and I went home crying.
Speaker 1:How old were you when this happened? I was like 14.
Speaker 2:Okay, 13, 14. Because, like we grew up in, like the projects, the housing authority projects, and this guy used to come through there all the time to go visit his grandmother and I would always tell my family I said that's gonna be my husband, you know, not doing that, you know, and I was like I was a little bitty girl and um, so yeah, I, we, we got together, we got together and I wasn't supposed to be cold, but you know how young kids are.
Speaker 2:He kissed me and I had to go tell my mom and I was crying and crying. I said, mom, she was like what's wrong? I said he kissed me. That's what I said. He kissed me and she said that's all he did. She said yeah. I said he kissed me and she said that's all he did. Yeah, I said yeah. So I knew then that that wasn't true. That wasn't true but yeah being I, we got together and I did become pregnant at the age of 15. I had to tell my mom. That was the hurting thing about it for me telling my mom that her baby girl is pregnant when she don't talk to me about what could happen. But you know, like us, some kids, we want to test the waters, you know, try and see what would really happen. So I had to tell my mom. But after a while she came around because she knew I was having a baby. Having an abortion was not an option in my family. So that's how it started.
Speaker 1:Well, let's take it back just one step. So tell me about the dynamic between this boy and you. A lot of girls like you say you got kids. Tell me about the dynamic between this boy and you. A lot of girls like you say you got kids. So was that the magic moment? Was this your first encounter with a boy, or what?
Speaker 2:Yes, he was my first encounter. Like I said, I used to see him going to his grandmother's house to visit his grandma and I always thought he was a nice guy, handsome guy, you know. But you know at the time I didn't know anything about him. I just know he looked good to me. We got to start talking because we in the project we playing softball, kickball, whatever, and we got to know each other and then we started, we went to school together. He was a grade ahead of me, so you know that's how we actually got together and but, yeah, we went. That was my high school sweetheart, I say you know, I was, I loved, I was in love with him and it started like that. You know, I met him through coming through the projects, going to meet his grandmother, and we got to talking and playing around and we ended up with a child. We ended up with a child.
Speaker 1:Did he? You know a lot of boys? Did he talk you into you know having sex? Or did I mean? What was it?
Speaker 2:You guys just mutually agreed, or Well, I don't think it was agreement. I don't think we talked about it. I think it was something that happened. Okay, really, I really didn't know what I was doing. He was like three years older than me. I was 15. I think he was 18. Okay, I didn't really know, but he didn't like force me. I was there, I wanted to be by his side. I thought that, you know, I just wanted to be around him and it wasn't nothing that was forced. So, you know, when it came to that point, I wanted to see what it was.
Speaker 1:You know. Okay, so you found out. How did you tell him? You told your found out, how did you tell him? You told your mom, how did you tell him and how did he react?
Speaker 2:um well, I knew I didn't have a cycle, okay, my period didn't come on, so I knew that something was wrong, but I didn't know. But I my mom was the type of person that she used to buy our pads and stuff when it was time. She knew and mine was coming on, so I had to put ketchup or something in a pad so she could see that she wouldn't expect me. I really didn't know until that point where I didn't have a cycle and his mother actually told me that I was pregnant. Oh, so his mama knew, okay, and I was like I'm not pregnant and she said yes, you is. She said I can tell it in your eyes, in my eyes, what's going on with my eyes. So she actually told me.
Speaker 2:So when I went to the clinic to find out for sure because I know my cycle, you know that's when I told him. When I told him he wasn't, he was like he was happy about it. He was like you pregnant. He was like he was happy about it. He was like you praying. I'm like, yeah, what you happy about? You got to go tell my mama, you know, you got to tell my mama that you got me praying. And then, but no, he didn't not never like say that this is not my child. He was very supportive, he was scared, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:That was usually one of the things I wanted to touch on, because a lot of boys that age and that ain't mine and I'm not going to you got to do something about that, because if they were athletes or whatever, oh, you're ruining my. You know, I can't have a child. I'm about to go into football or what to call it. You know all that. So at least this young man was acknowledged and did you know? Try to support.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he, he was very supportive, um, he was, um had plans to go into the military, which he did go into the military, so he didn't say anything negative toward my pregnancy. We were just trying to figure out how we was going to get through it.
Speaker 1:Okay, and so you had the baby. He was in the military. And then what?
Speaker 2:So I had the baby at the age of 16. Okay, when I had the baby I think it was a week or so later or something like that that he left for the military.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So he was there during the birth. No, yes, yes, he was there during the birth. Okay, he was there. So at this point I'm like I don't know what to do. Mm-hmm, you know, I'm a child myself, so what? I was scared, mm-hmm, I didn't know.
Speaker 1:So did both moms your mom and his mom um step in to help you.
Speaker 2:Yes, um my mom, my family was very supportive of me. Um my mom, my sister, mostly um, was there. Um, his mom was there as well If I needed anything, and his sisters um his family as well.
Speaker 2:They did not turn their cheek from me, they not turn their head away from me. They did help me with him. So I had a big support. But I know it's a lot of teenagers out there that don't have that support and that their family turned their backs on them. But that didn't happen with me. But so I was very fortunate. Take any backs on them, right, but you know, but that didn't happen with me. But um, so I was very fortunate when it came down to um me having my family to support me as being a a teen mom what were some of the challenges?
Speaker 1:were you still, did you finish, continue going to school and finish high school and everything um with having your son?
Speaker 2:yes, uh, once I had my son, I had my support system there. Um, okay, his mom, um actually took care of the mom of the son while I went to school.
Speaker 2:She was there when I well, he hasn't haven't left yet he was still here, he hasn't never been to the military yet because he was there with the birth, but he was there after he finished school, before he left out the ploy. He was there to see Biden, make sure he was there to see by them, make sure he was taking care of why I went to school as well as my mom. So he was a big help after I had my son, because I had a boy and my son and so he was a big help going to school. Okay, so yeah.
Speaker 2:I continue to go to school at that point. Yeah, Okay, so yeah, I continue to go to school at that point yeah, Okay, and so when he?
Speaker 1:how long did he serve in the military?
Speaker 2:Actually, he's still in the military. He's still in the military.
Speaker 1:Oh, so he's making a career. He made a career out of it. He made a career out of it, yes, okay, and so you were still receiving support from him. He was in his son's life throughout the whole. You know your son's childhood and everything. So you were one of the lucky, blessed young teenage mom who actually, you know, did receive support from the father and from his family, as well as yours. Now, have you seen other young ladies that was in the same predicament? That was opposite of what you went through.
Speaker 2:as far as Now, that was the case with my well, that was the case with my first one and my second one, but I was still a teenager. Well, I was young when I had my second daughter. I think I was 19. But it was harder for me because I went through the relationship with my kid's father turned, you know. So I had some trying and rough times at that point. Okay, it wasn't. It wasn't as easy because I had to leave my family and go with my husband because we got married right. So the time had got trying because I didn't have my support system there.
Speaker 1:Okay, so just to back up a little bit. So your first, your son's father. He's in the military, he, you know, did the right thing by you. Your second relationship how did that come about, do?
Speaker 2:you have your daughter, my daughter's, by the same guy.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, okay, so it's okay. So I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:My kids have the same father.
Speaker 1:Okay, gotcha, gotcha. I'm just trying to okay. So the dynamic change with the, with the daughter, the well, it changed a little.
Speaker 2:It changed to the point where, after I got married and I had to leave my support system, I had to leave home, okay, um, that's where the change came in because, um, like I say, me being a teenage mom and then getting married at an early age and then having another child leaving my, my family and going to an unfamiliar place, it was very challenging it, it was very hard.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what was the difference? I mean, other than you, you married this man. You know your father, the father of your kids. What was it? Something that he changed? He started changing his attitude and you know, know him being, he being in the military, and you guys are now married, or I?
Speaker 2:mean, I me personally. I think the military changed him, him being the kind loving person that he was before we got married and before you know it changed. I don't know if it was the stress from the military or was it, you know, I don't know what it was, but it changed to the fact where it was very stressful for me and the kids to be, you know.
Speaker 1:What examples of how?
Speaker 2:By them being deployed, deployed, they be deployed, they come in, um, and I'm there, don't know nothing, I don't, I didn't know how to cook a ball of egg at that time, you know, because I was still young, um, so it was hard for me to adjust to being a parent to kids, that I didn't know how to be a parent to um.
Speaker 2:But, um, once, you know, I went through what I had, what I went through by him being deployed, and I'm there by myself with these kids and I'm not working. No, the only income coming in is what he bring, you know, send it to us. It was very hard and very challenging and that made that made me grow up. I had to grow up at that point because, like, like I said, when I was home, I had everybody there doing everything for me. Then, when I went off on my own with my husband, things changed. I had to put up what they call your big girl drawers and I had to become a mom to my kids. That was challenging because I didn't know how to my kids, and that was challenging because I didn't know how to be one, because I you know, okay, so did the dynamic between you and your husband.
Speaker 1:How was that changed? I mean the fact that the physical, that you were taken out of your familiar environment, and now that you know you're a military, um, uh, military wife and what you know, with kids, how did you two, um, were there changes in between you two?
Speaker 2:yes, we, we, we, um, we grew apart. We, we didn't communicate as much as we normally do. I don't know if he just was, like I said, anger with the military. I just think the military just do something to a person's mind. We did change to the point where the communication was not there, the trust was not there, the physical abuse started coming in, mm-hmm. But, um, you know, we it was. It was just hard. It was hard for for me and it could have been hard for him. I, because you, I don't know what was going on through in his mind. I don't know, I'd probably be the one that changed for him, you know. So I'm not sure, but I'm just going by. You know how I felt and what. You know what I had to go through during that process of it so there were um physical abuse in the in the marriage.
Speaker 1:It was okay. Um so okay, I'm trying to. So how long did you was the abuse? Was it?
Speaker 2:did it start off as verbal and then you know, he just blow up or he just how it started off as, I guess, verbal, and then it got to the point where it wasn't no communication at all and it's like um, then everything I did wasn't good enough, mm-hmm. Um. So they got angry about that. I couldn't do nothing right, I couldn't. I couldn't put the kids shoes on right, or it was always something. Um. So, yeah, it started with verbal and then it became physical, um, so I I dealt with that, but that's how it started.
Speaker 1:Verbal first how long did you? When was the last straw that says enough is enough. I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2:We had been in three locations when we got. I think it was in 2020. Okay, when we got I think it was in 2020, my kids was I think my daughter was five or six, something like that I left. I had enough and my kids was very upset. Basically, my son. He was very upset with me because I left. But kids, they know what's going on. But I always wanted my kids to grow up in the same house with their dad. I always wanted my kids to have the same dad and we all grew up in the house with their dad. But sometimes, when you be in situations that you can't do that, you got to look out for your kids and you got to make that decision because they can't, because they're young, so you have to. You have to make that decision for your family. Right, and that's the decision I made. I made that decision to get out of that environment better myself and to better you know, give my kids a better life, mm-hmm and they.
Speaker 1:I'm assuming that they eventually understood that, and they.
Speaker 2:I'm assuming that they eventually understood that. Well, my son, he, he, I think he resented me for a while for that. He started having anger issues, anger problem. He was wanting to know why we went with his dad. Why did we have to come home? My daughter too much didn't really really, it didn't really bother her it if it did. She didn't, you know, but because she was. So she was younger than my son, so she just didn't know why daddy wasn't there. But with him it was different. He was angry angry.
Speaker 1:Do you know if he sought I'm assuming that he was in combat he actually fought.
Speaker 2:He went to different. He was in Haiti, kuwait and stuff like that he went to different.
Speaker 1:Do you know if he sought help for his anger? And what he is is, to your knowledge, my son or no, your ex? Well, your ex-husband.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure we do when he talked to the grandkids. We do communicate, we speak. Now we're friends and he has a relationship with his kids now Okay, so you know he I'm not sure that he get that counseling or the help that he needed, which I think we could have, should have got it then when we were together to try to work things out. I think we should have got it then when we were together to try to work things out. But you know, sometimes we do things when we angry up on the home board.
Speaker 2:You know we just you know we thinking we doing the right thing. But when we going through it we got to think about it's not only about you, you got kids and how that gonna affect the kids. You know, I like now my daughter had her first child. Tell her you know, you you got kids, how that going to affect the kids. My daughter had her first child. I tell her don't do anything out of anger.
Speaker 2:We have to be careful who we have kids by. In the beginning we have to ask God to send us our person, that man or who we should have kids for. We should be married for one, but that not always be the case. It's some girls out here that they're having a rough time with bringing a child in the world and they don't have that support that I had. But I want to let them know it's help out there. You have to just reach out. You have to open your mouth and talk and speak Right, yeah, and when you don't speak or get help for it, that way the anger and the animosity and the retaliation come in Right and it shouldn't be like that Right.
Speaker 1:So let's bring everything up to now. You are a newly divorced mom with children. How did the entrepreneurship come in? How did you figure I want to get into business? I want to be an example to not only to my kids, but to other people who may have been in your situation, who may want to think about you know, being a businesswoman. So how did that come about?
Speaker 2:Um, well, that came about when, um, my kids was growing up, they was growing up and, um, after I had my second child, my daughter, I did, I did drop out of school at that point. Okay. So when? Okay. So when I got to the point when I um saw my son, um not want to go to school and he dropped out, a light bulb hit, I was like we know that our, we are, we are our kids first teachers and what they see us do, they do right, it Right. They think it's okay. That didn't sit well with me. So I went and got my GED. Okay.
Speaker 2:I went on to college, to accounting, criminal justice, and I got, I landed a job with the city. Okay. So when I walked across that stage and got my diploma, that was so amazing to me, it was just like a breath of fresh air, it was so rewarding. I'm like I did it. And once I crossed that stage and I saw my family out there cheering me on, that's when I went on into college and I sued the other, you know, and my son was there and he noticed it. So he came up to me. He said mom, he said you're inspirational to me. He said, by you going back and getting your GED to let me know that it can be done. I'm going to go back to me, he said, by you going back and getting your GED to let me know that it can be done. I want to go back to school, wow.
Speaker 1:And he still had his credits.
Speaker 2:So he went back and he was able to march with that class, wow. And I was like, wow, you know, I got to set the tone for my kids, what they see me wow, you know, I got to set the tone for my kids, what they see me doing. They see, okay, mama's not giving up, she going, you know, head on with it, no matter what come her way, no matter what the situation is, that it can be done. Right, we just got to put our feet to our face and we got to get it done. And because our kids is watching us and I tell people all the time be careful what you say and do around your kids, because they see and they hear, they listen to everything, they pick up on everything.
Speaker 2:So that's what made me want to start my business, to expand my horizon. Um, let them know that you don't have to settle for one particular thing. This, this guy, is over the limits. You know you can do this and whatever you set your mind to do, but first, put God first in everything you do. Absolutely Put God first in everything you do and it will happen.
Speaker 1:So talk to us about Crystal Clear Travel Agency, your travel business.
Speaker 2:So I love it. So, as you know, I am a business owner of two debt-free businesses. I am a marketing rep for Planet Marketing, where I introduce my business opportunity to them and let them know that they can earn up to eight strings of income that residual income come in. The other business that I have is my travel business, crystal Clear Travel. I was introduced to the business a couple years ago and I was skeptical about it because I thought it was a pyramid or a stamp. So we always do our research and stuff. So I did my research and I was too skeptical. I was too broke to be skeptical, you know. So I had to do something. So I came up with the name Crystal Clear Travel.
Speaker 2:So I came up with the name Crystal Clear Travel. That was personal to me because some of them may not know that my niece, she was 23. She died of cancer and she used to love to go. She used to love to travel, she was very adventurous, she loved to do stuff. So I got my name from that, from Crystal Clear Travel. So, and what I do? I book vacation trips, rental cars, sports events, concert tickets, whatever fun and whatever is dealing with travel. I handle that for them, for people, for myself, and earn the commission from it, wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 1:And for those who do not know, that is how I met Chandra. She introduced me into the travel business. So I just, you know, at first I was skeptical, I was like, oh, I don't know, but I, you know, I like to travel and I do. I do like to, you know, find packages, like to find packages and vacations and stuff. She said, well, just try it, she's my mentor. That's how we connected. I tell you, she has been once, not only as a I think of her as a friend but also a support, um and um. You know, anything that you need, um, you know she'll, she'll point you to the right direction. If she doesn't know, she'll find out for you. She gives you, you know, motivation, um. So how can people reach out to you if they want to book um, uh, or inquire about a vacation package to you?
Speaker 2:So they can reach me um by um. They can go on my website, chandrazanasintellotravelcom. Um. You can reach me back there. You can reach me um on Facebook. Uh, in my DM you can hit me up there Um my email. You can send me an email um KK, um K clear travel at gmailcom. You can reach me by that?
Speaker 1:Um so is it K clear? C K L E A R, k L E E R. It's K L E A R, okay, k K K. Clear travel at gmailcom.
Speaker 2:K-cleartravel at gmailcom. Okay, I'm putting it in the comments so people can and they can go on my website and register it's.
Speaker 2:ShondraZandersIntelletravelcom. Okay, all right, I just want to let you know if I have any teenage moms out there. Everybody's situation is different. If you're going through hard times and you don't have that support system out there, some people out there will help you. Let someone know when you need help. Let someone know when you're hurting. Let someone know it's time to speak up. Speak up people. We don't know what's going on until you tell us a closed mouth don't get fed, absolutely so you got to speak up. Let someone know people out there willing to help if you allow them to help you and be humble. Young kids, y'all need to be humble.
Speaker 1:Say that again, say that again If someone comes up and tells you something or gives you advice about something.
Speaker 2:They're not just saying it, just to be saying it. They've been through it, right, they've been through it. They know what they're talking about. So, y'all young people, y'all young moms, young dads, y'all be humble and get their advice from your elders?
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:That was the last question.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask you to please pour into some wisdom to these young people, and I think the best thing you said was be humble, open your mind to, because you don't know, I know, at that age you think you know everything, you got everything figured out, but you don't, and life can throw you curves, and even at our big old age, life are throwing curves at us. So, but I mean it's good to don't feel like you're out here having to do everything alone, because there I mean seek the wisdom for someone that you can trust and and talk to, and, as you, you know an older person that has been through it. And you know we're not trying to tell you what to do, we're just advising you because we don't want you to do the same things that we did, the mistakes that we've made. That's why we keep telling our kids you know, I'm not trying to be in your business, I'm not trying to tell you anything, you know, I'm just trying to guide you to, you know, prevent you from making the same mistakes that I did Exactly, Exactly.
Speaker 2:But they, they, they, you just, you just don't want me to do this and you just don't want me to do that. And they get so mad and angry with you and I'm like baby, I'm just trying to tell you because I know at some point, you know it was hard for me, I was, I was a young girl.
Speaker 2:You know, my mom then was there, but it was still things that I had to do that I didn't know how to do. Right, like you know, take care of a baby. I didn't want to change a pamper, mm-hmm. You had to learn, though. I had to learn. I had to grow up quick.
Speaker 2:Me and my son was going to school together. Wow, so he was going, I was putting him on the head start book and I was going to school. That really was embarrassing to me. After I got in and just looked at it, you know, and you know people are going to talk yeah, just do what you can do for your baby. Exactly, do what you can do, and that what you can't ask for help is help out there. Yeah, just take advantage of it.
Speaker 1:And that's another thing you just said people are going to talk stay away from toxic. You know people, that you know just, you know you got to learn how to tune that up because you have a goal in mind, cause if it was easy then everybody would be doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly so so with that being said, I appreciate this conversation. I know, you know someone can hear this and you know, and take a little bit of the wisdom that is being thrown at you. Just glean from that. There's help out there, there's resources out there. Don't be ashamed. Don't be ashamed. You're not the first and you're not going to be the last.
Speaker 1:But know that there is people out here who do care and just ask for help, because closed mouths don't get fed, as you said. That's right. So, with that being said, please reach out to um Chandra, um Zanders, um dot and teletravelcom. I put it in the comments so you guys can um see and, for those who are going to be listening by audio, I'll have everything in the show notes. So, um, you guys, I'll have everything in the show notes. So you guys, please take care of each other, please take care of yourself. Put God first, lean on God, put your faith in God. Whatever you're going through, give it to him.
Speaker 1:He's going to work it out. It's going to be worked out one way or the other. It's going to be worked out if you trust him.
Speaker 2:And also remember you treat people the way you want to be treated. How people treat you is none of your none of your business absolutely. Yeah, that's who. But god gonna judge how you treat them, not absolutely. So y'all put god first, like she said, and treat people right amen.
Speaker 1:All right, you guys be safe and take care, and I will talk with you soon.
Speaker 2:Bye, bye-bye, thank you.